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Conversations That Count – Ngā Kōrero Whai Take

Conversations That Count – Ngā Kōrero Whai Take

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  • Wed 24 Mar, 7:00am – 9:00am


Te Papa, 55 Cable St, Wellington


All Ages

Ticket Information:

  • General Admission: $35.00
  • Student (proof of ID on arrival will be required): $25.00

“Emerging from the Bubble”

In 2020, all around the world, people were forced to change the way they thought, worked and communicated with each other. New Zealand established a bubble around its borders and Kiwis formed bubbles around their whānau. Aotearoa became a world-leading “team of 5 million” and while many parts of the world continued to be restricted, New Zealanders began to emerge into what is now the ‘new normal’.

In 2021 Kiwi communities, businesses and industries continue to navigate this new normal and start to look forward to what’s next. Although the bubble is not yet a thing of the past, this year is New Zealand’s chance to shape the future of Aotearoa and te ao whānui.

Join us for some breakfast for a kōrero with some of New Zealand’s leading thinkers and doers, as they tackle what it looks like to emerge from the bubble and how Aotearoa can take its place in a changed world.

Purchase your ticket today.

Brought to you by Massey University in partnership with The Spinoff and with support from the Wellington Chamber of Commerce.


Chlöe Swarbrick
Chlöe is the MP for Auckland Central and is the youngest MP in Aotearoa for over 40 years. She entered parliament to show people that politicians can look a little different, sound a little different, do things a little different, and to drive home the message that politicians work for people. Chlöe is the Green Party spokesperson on Mental Health, Sensible Drug Law Reform, Local Government, Arts Culture & Heritage, Small Business, Broadcasting and Youth.

Cameron Bagrie
Cameron is the Managing Director of Bagrie Economics. Prior to that he was Chief Economist at ANZ for 11.5 years. He also runs a couple of private businesses and sits on the board of Life Education and the Police Health Plan.

Stacey Morrison, (Te Arawa, Ngai Tahu)
Stacey is a broadcaster and Māori language advocate based at Te Pūtahi-a-Toi, Massey University’s School of Māori knowledge. She has a passion for advancing the outcomes for whānau, hapū and iwi and her work at Massey explores new pathways for whānau and community-centred learning.

Professor Thomas
Professor Jan Thomas is the Vice-Chancellor at Massey University, the second woman to hold the position. She holds a PhD in veterinary pathology and has worked as a senior executive at universities in Australia. Professor Thomas leads the university in ensuring Massey delivers high-quality, accessible learning to all New Zealanders, and cutting-edge research that helps us tackle our wicked problems.

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